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Welcome to episode 11 of the Deficient Vegans podcast.
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I'm the muscle deficient vegan here with the protein deficient Vegan.
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Do you wanna say hi?
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Hi.
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Hi.
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So, it's been a little while since we had our last episode.
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We've actually gone through a lot of, uh, changes with the website and kind of the way we're structuring things.
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So we wanted to reset a little bit before we kept up on this path.
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Uh, we had the Vegans fitness website for a while.
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We've actually split it up now into the protein deficient vegan.com website, which is mostly food and recipes focusing on protein, all vegan obviously.
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And then we have also the muscle deficient vegan.com website, which is more around, uh, fitness and, uh, general health nutrition.
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Type, uh, information seemed easier to split this up a little bit 'cause some people really only have have an interest on one or the other.
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If you have an interest in both, we do kind of cross link between the websites and stuff like that.
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So anyway, uh, with those updates, we'll have those links in the show notes and, uh, we can move forward from here.
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Pretend this is season two.
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Yeah.
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So in this episode we're gonna talk about what does it actually mean for a food to be high protein?
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Yeah.
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So, uh, there are a lot of different marketing terms out there for food in general, but protein is one of them.
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Uh, you'll see foods that say they're high protein.
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You look on the label.
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It's not necessarily that high protein.
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You see foods that say just protein, that, what does that mean?
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Almost all food has protein.
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So they're just trying to use that as a marketing term to get people to buy it, even if it's not really a high protein food.
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They're liars
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sometimes.
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Yeah, it does seem that way.
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They
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just want your money,
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right?
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So, uh, high protein food in general.
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Why do you even want to eat a high protein food?
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It helps you get closer to your daily protein goal.
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We've covered protein goals on a couple of the previous episodes and also on the website.
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And we'll have a link to, uh, a blog article about protein goals in the show notes here.
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So we're not gonna cover that end of it too much.
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We're just gonna talk about the food itself and what makes it high protein.
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Basically, if you have a calorie target and a protein target.
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There's gonna be a certain percentage of your calories that are coming from protein.
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So the way I like to think about it when I'm eating food is that the food I'm eating.
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I want it to be a similar percentage of protein to my overall target.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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And if you look at the, the label on some food and you don't actually do the math yourself, you might uh, not really realize how little protein is actually in it.
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And you could end up kind of wasting calories that you thought were gonna help with your protein goals, but actually don't end up doing it because you didn't do the math, even though you really shouldn't have to.
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If a food says high protein, but again, because of some of the marketing issues, uh, you do have to check it.
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Yeah.
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I've seen some things that say like.
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High protein, and then you look at the back and it's like 250 calories and maybe you get seven grams of protein, which is.
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Pretty bad.
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Yeah.
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Not great.
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I don't, I wouldn't call that high protein.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so that's, that's a big issue with a lot of foods on nutrition labels, but at least on a, on a food like that, you can do the math and look at the nutrition label.
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Yeah.
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So we're gonna talk a little bit about recipes you might find on the internet.
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And if you guys have seen our site, we like listing all the macros out with the recipes.
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A lot of recipes don't have that information listed and really, uh, almost don't even have it available in a lot of cases.
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Yeah.
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One of my biggest annoyances when I would be looking for recipes is like you go to the recipe and.
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A, maybe it's not even there, but B, maybe it is there, but you have to scroll all the way through.
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So like I had open your SP that you said was high protein.
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Scroll all the way through it.
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Now I finally get to the nutrition information at the bottom and it is definitely not high protein.
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And now I'm annoyed.
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Yeah.
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And then you sometimes won't even have it at the bottom.
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You have to go and put it all in MyFitnessPal manually, and you're like, oh, I'm putting this high protein thing in MyFitnessPal.
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And you get all the way to the end of it and it turns out it's like 6% protein.
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And you're like, great.
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I'm glad I used all that time on something useful.
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And if you are a recipe creator that does this to me, I will never.
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Ever go to your thing again For the rest of my life, you'll be banished in my mind.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty annoying if, and you know, there, there's definitely a place for recipes like that, but if you call it a high protein recipe or a protein recipe.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think you have to be pretty careful about what you're calling protein and high protein.
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Like we intentionally try to make sure we don't list anything as high protein is an at least 25%.
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Yeah.
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Based on, because we enter everything in MyFitnessPal.
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So if it says it's 25% or above in MyFitnessPal, we label it as high protein, right?
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On our blog.
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Yeah.
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And so there are some ways you can check without having to go through all that trouble to put it into MyFitnessPal or even do like some mental math.
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There are some things you can just kinda look at in a recipe and have some common sense, like, is this recipe gonna be something that is actually high protein?
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So.
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One of the things is look at the volume of the ingredients.
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Like for instance, I've seen a cake on Instagram once that said it was a high protein cake, and I looked at it and all the ingredients are like normal cake ingredients.
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And then it was like, oh.
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Two tablespoons of protein powder and it's like, uh, well there's no way.
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This is like good macros.
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I thought if you added protein powder in any amount, it's automatically a high protein recipe.
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No.
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Does this mean I can't like roll my Oreos and protein powder and call 'em high protein cookies?
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It depends on how much protein powder you get on them, I guess.
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Well, I don't know.
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I'm gonna keep doing it my way, I think.
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Yeah,
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it's like throwing a. Teaspoon of protein powder into the ocean and being like, this is a high protein ocean.
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Yeah, it's um, I guess it's maybe the same people that marketed for, what's that shitty drink that tastes like one strawberry Skittle in a bucket of water.
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Little LaCroix.
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Oh, LaCroix.
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It's of high protein recipes.
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I can't let you sit here.
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And bad mouth mc.
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This is one of my favorites.
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Sorry.
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Sorry, not sorry.
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Have you seen the, the videos on TikTok about LaCroix where it's like somebody across the room sniffs a watermelon while a guy fills the glass up with water and it's like, this is how you make LaCroix.
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I wish I knew that guy's name to give him credit.
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High protein recipes.
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Yeah.
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That I've seen online.
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Oh man.
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Yeah, so it is a lot like that sometimes.
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Yeah.
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This was made near a big thing of protein powder, so it is clearly high protein osmosis.
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Right.
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So, yeah, I mean, you could pro protein powder's an obvious one in the recipe, in the, uh, ingredient list, but you can also just kind of look for.
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You think it's gonna be the source of the protein in the recipe?
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Yeah.
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Like, so it's gonna be the protein powder or some sort of tofu or a TVP, Satan, something like that.
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And you can almost, to a certain extent, kind of ignore the rest of the recipe and just be like, how much protein is in that ingredient and how, how much is that spread throughout the recipe?
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Yeah.
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So if it's just, you know, like you said, a couple tablespoons of, of a powder or a couple ounces of TVP or something like that whole, the whole recipe's obviously not gonna end up high protein.
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Yeah.
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And like the more you do kind of a gut check on this, the better you'll get at it.
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Yeah.
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I
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feel like I can, I've gotten a little too good at guessing how much calories and protein are in things just by looking.
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Yeah.
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It's a superpower that's not very useful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And as far as, uh, protein powder goes, you know, you don't actually need to use it in a lot of recipes.
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Um, most of the time or a lot of the time, maybe you're.
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Better off doing like a protein shake.
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Um, but you really only need to do those if you kind of wanna bring up the average protein of your day if you have like a really high protein target.
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Yeah.
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So like for instance, if you're targeting between 25 and 30% of your calories should be protein.
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If you're eating 25 to 30% protein meals and snacks throughout the day, you don't usually need a protein shake.
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But if you're averaging more around the 20% protein per calorie on all your meals and snacks, then you probably are going to need like a protein shake or something that's more like 50, 60% protein to bring up the overall average of your day.
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Protein shakes and protein powder.
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You don't have to think much about that.
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For the most part, they're all really high protein.
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There are variances there.
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But you do wanna be careful with something like a protein bar, because a lot of protein bars are only like 20 or 30% protein, especially the vegan ones.
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So you really need to try to look out for like the very high protein protein bars.
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Yeah.
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And I like for high protein.
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I know you don't like the flavor of it is no cow.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because they, they have like one of the higher protein percentages.
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Yeah, so the way you can tell if a protein bar is high protein is usually how bad it tastes.
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There's some truth to that for sure.
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Like the more it tastes like a candy bar, the more your OL.
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Yeah.
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Like you're not getting much protein from that.
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Yeah.
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You're eating a candy bar,
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right?
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Yeah.
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And so, you know, ideally because like protein shakes, a lot of people don't like the way that tastes protein bars, a lot of people don't really like those very much.
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Um, it's better to try to get the protein into your food.
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Yeah.
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And so one of the go-to things that people do is to like just mix protein powder into food.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, but a lot of times that can make it taste worse and doesn't really give you the benefit.
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Like maybe sometimes you'd be better off just drinking a protein shake and eating the food you like.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, like I. Like 10 years ago I bought this book that was around adding protein powder or food cooking with protein powder.
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And I tried like, I don't know, maybe 10 recipes out of it and they were all not very good.
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And so I've come up with this thing like if protein powder makes the food taste.
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Worse significantly.
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I'm just gonna choose to eat the food by itself and then drink a protein shake.
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Right?
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Like I'm not gonna make like protein cookies with protein powder that tastes like trash.
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Yeah.
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I'm just going to eat a cookie and then drink some protein powder to offset.
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Yeah, and there are some cases where it doesn't even change the taste that much, it just changes the texture so much that you'd rather not eat it that way.
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Yeah, it can make it really gritty depending on what you're using it in.
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Yeah.
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So some ways, instead of protein powder to get more protein into your food are some of the ingredients that you'll see in a lot of the recipes we use.
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The first one of those maybe is, uh, TVP.
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Yeah, TVP is a great one.
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It's around, I think, 60% protein for a lot of the typical brands like Bob's Red Mill.
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But then if you look into say, grace Protein, um, yeah.
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Which is more niche, but theirs is like 90% protein.
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It's ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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They use some kind of process that like concentrates the soy and like super dfas it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you can use TVP in all kinds of ways.
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You can bake with it, you can obviously make savory things with it.
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Um, we use it for literally anything.
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We make muffins out of it.
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Cookies.
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What else do
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we use?
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You can put TVP into your oatmeal and it's kind of like a lot of people put protein powder in your oatmeal, but that, uh, makes it crazy concrete mix and you know, I like it, but a lot of people really don't like it.
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I don't like it.
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So if you put TVP instead into your oatmeal, uh, you really don't even notice much of a difference in taste or texture.
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It's just kind of like oatmeal, but there's TV in it.
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Yeah, when I
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eat it like that, I, I can't even tell which parts are TVP and which parts are oatmeal.
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Yeah, that's really, really popular.
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Uh, you can use it in breadcrumbs.
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Yeah,
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high protein breadcrumbs.
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You can use it as breadcrumbs on top of like a casserole or something.
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Yeah.
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We kinda use it as like fake bacon bits too, right?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Works good in like tacos or chilies or anywhere you would use like ground fake meat.
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Yeah.
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But this isn't super processed because TVP is just D soy flour.
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Yeah, and, and we've got recipes on the website to go either in a sweet or savory direction, so you can use it in a lot of different ways.
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Oh, I really like using it as like a grain.
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Substitute like a rice substitute.
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It's really great to use as like a base for, I don't know, like curries.
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Oh yeah.
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If you were gonna use rice, you could use some seasoned TVP, or you could use it as like a rice slash quinoa substitute and like stuffed bell peppers.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I really like that the six bell peppers are, they're really good with it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It adds like a ton of protein and keeps it pretty low calorie.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Super easy to use too.
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So another option is, uh, edamame Puffs, which we recently had an interesting answer.
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Okay.
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So I made high protein Rice Krispies with these, and then I posted it online as you do.
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And then I think it got pretty popular because the next thing I know in a couple weeks, you can't really buy those on Amazon anymore.
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They're completely sold out.
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Yeah.