Muscle Deficient Vegan: 0:00

Welcome to episode 10 of the Deficient Vegans podcast. I'm the muscle deficient vegan here with the protein deficient vegan. You wanna say hi?

Protein Deficient Vegan: 0:06

Hi.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 0:07

Hi. So this week we're gonna talk about, uh, vegan myths, misconceptions, hesitations you might have when trying to go vegan. Uh, it's still vegan, so a lot of people are still, you know, poking around trying to understand what it maybe means to go vegan or, uh, maybe switch to a plant-based diet. So I think a lot of these things are probably things that people think about or hear maybe if they talk to people about, uh, being a vegan. We're gonna try to tackle some of these and, you know, have a little bit of a conversation about 'em.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 0:34

Yeah. It might even be good if you are trying out theary and you're getting a lot of these.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 0:38

Yeah. So, uh, jumping right in. The first thing we have, uh, is the myth that all vegans eat is rabbit food. So there's a big misconception that a lot of vegans basically just eat like salads, literally bowls of lettuce for whatever reason. Maybe just vegetables. Um, but everybody needs actual protein in their diet, even if they're not doing a high protein diet. So. A lot of the sources are really gonna be things like beans and lentils for the common ones, but our style is to kind of do the more high protein stuff like tofu and Satan.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 1:07

Yeah, and this is a big problem, like if you're going out with friends and they're picking restaurants that only have like maybe one vegan option, and that vegan option is just a salad. You kind of run into it at work functions and stuff too. For some reason people don't seem to understand, like, just because I'm vegan doesn't mean I don't also need things other than lettuce.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 1:29

Yeah, yeah. A lot of times the vegan option is just take everything off. That's not the lettuce and vegetables and it's uh, not very helpful for anybody really.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 1:37

Yeah. It's actually pretty wild because at work a couple years ago. Um, we were doing strike coverage, so we were probably gonna get locked in. And so the preparations were happening and they were sending out the menu of like, here's what you can expect since, you know you can't leave for two entire weeks. And I was like, there aren't vegan options. What is the vegan option? And I hear back that, oh, well the vegan option is going to be a bowl of mixed greens for lunch and dinner, but you would need to bring your own dressing. I, I had no words.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 2:12

Yeah, that's

Protein Deficient Vegan: 2:13

like

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 2:14

very generous to let you pick your own dressing, you know? Yeah, I

Protein Deficient Vegan: 2:17

know. I can bring my own dressing. It was wild. So I started like stocking peanut butter. Do you remember that?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 2:23

Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 2:24

I was like stockpiling peanut butter and like

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 2:26

no. If we knew then what we know now, you probably could have made some high protein dressing for that. Yeah, I could have, but it

Protein Deficient Vegan: 2:31

would've only lasted like four days because it has tofu. Yeah. Still not ideal. It was pretty nuts.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 2:36

Yeah. But anyway, most vegans, even vegetarians, not a big fan of the bowl of lettuce and other things that are considered rabbit food. That's not really how we eat.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 2:45

Yeah, it's, I, I don't even consider that like a vegan option. Like if someone asks me to go somewhere and that's the vegan option on the menu, unless I like really, really, really, really wanna hang out with you, I'm probably not gonna go.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 2:56

Yeah. All right, so next step on the list, vegans are protein deficient. So being as we're here with the protein deficient vegan, uh, we've obviously got some opinions on this. Um, a actual protein deficiency that makes you actually sick is super rare. Uh, it's not even a common vegan problem. There are some people who. Can run into it if they go into what we were just talking about and maybe make a switch to eating a bunch of rabbit food for some reason.'cause they don't really comfortable or like a really comfort of junk food. A lot of junk food too. Um, but I mean, you, to be healthy, like the, the actual dietary minimum to not get sick is a very low protein percentage. So this just not really a concern.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 3:38

Like 10% maybe. Yeah. It's, it's really low. I mean, people are hitting this without even trying.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 3:43

Yeah. If you eat anything like. I mean anything really. Plants, even plants have protein to a certain degree. But you know, if, if you're not like trying to lose a bunch of weight by just eating lettuce, this is probably not something you're gonna run into.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 3:56

Yeah. Or junk food. Right? Yeah. But I mean, it is a little hard, like if you are trying to build muscle and trying to hit those protein targets, it can be a little more challenging. Yeah. But it is definitely not. Unachievable by any means.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 4:08

Yeah. Yeah. And I think this is, I mean, a pretty clear argument against this is there are plenty of vegan athletes and even bodybuilders, so mm-hmm. I mean, obviously there are a million ways to get vegan protein. Yeah. And that's, you know, one of the things we specialize in with our recipes is how to do that. Uh,

Protein Deficient Vegan: 4:25

you go check 'em out, go check 'em

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 4:25

out, for sure. But we, I mean, there's just. There's just protein and, and so much stuff. This is not really a real thing. Next up, the myth that vegans can't get all their nutrients and they live on supplements.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 4:36

I've been hearing this a lot.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 4:37

Yeah. And you know, a, a thing about a lot of these myths is there's a little bit of truth in some of 'em. Like the, the protein thing comes from the fact that there are some protein quality issues, but they don't really end up being relevant to just be healthy. Uh, the nutrients thing, there is one nutrient we can't really get, which is vitamin B12.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 4:53

Right. Yeah. But that's not naturally occurring in animal products either. Like Yeah, it's more of a modern agriculture issue.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 5:01

Yeah. And you know, we do have to take a supplement for that as far as everything else, you know? Or eat.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 5:05

No.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 5:06

Or eat noch. Yeah. I mean that's fortified a lot of fortified stuff. We do have to kind of be aware of it though. So while we don't need to supplement things, there are some things that are, you know, a little less available on a vegan diet. But they're usually not to the point where you end up with any kind of actual deficiency as long as you're eating a, a wide variety of foods, um, on either a vegan diet or even like the standard American or omnivore type diet. If you eat the same couple of things over and over, or you just eat junk food, you're gonna run into vitamin nutrient type deficiencies. Anyway. I mean, it's not like, uh, people who eat animal products never have nutrient deficiencies. I mean, I know back before I was vegan, I ran into vitamin D issues. I even ran into B12 issues of some random points in my life. They weren't serious, but I was definitely on the low end on blood tests and things like that at random times. Yeah. So yeah, a wide variety of, uh, whole Foods is the best way on any diet to get your, uh, vitamins and nutrients that you need. You can't replace the taste of meat and dairy products. I mean, I guess that's not really a myth, but

Protein Deficient Vegan: 6:12

I think people think it's a lot bigger deal than it actually is. Yeah, I

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 6:15

think that's the best way to put it. Like it doesn't, meat and dairy doesn't really need to be replaced. Uh, it's just kind of another ingredient that you use.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 6:24

Yeah, I think definitely meat is like, you can replicate that with like anything. As long as you're seasoning well and you're marinating stuff well, like I don't really think you miss that. Yeah. Dairy was a concern for me before I went vegan. I was a little worried I was gonna miss it, but there are a lot of great options out there now for like dairy substitutions if you wanna use those. And like also once you haven't eaten it for a while. I don't miss it any, I don't even think about it.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 6:53

Yeah. You think of meat as like the central part of the meal, but I mean, really when you. Really think about it and you start eating things that don't have meat. You realize it was just kind of like the chewy, textured part of the meal. And there are a lot of things that you can do that with. So, I

Protein Deficient Vegan: 7:06

mean like tofu, right? Yeah. Satan. Satan's amazing,

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 7:10

right? Yeah. Satan is kind of

Protein Deficient Vegan: 7:12

like fills that gap immediately.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 7:14

Yeah. If you, I mean, definitely if you feel the need to, uh, like replace that part of your plate with something kind of similar, Satan is a great option, but, and there are a

Protein Deficient Vegan: 7:22

lot of like meat substitutes too that work really well.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 7:25

You know, there are. A lot of different ingredients. Thousands probably have different ingredients out there that have all their own flavors. Uh, meat and dairy are really just a handful of ingredients, so you're not really gonna miss those nearly as much as you think when you have all these other options to eat. Yeah, food

Protein Deficient Vegan: 7:40

maybe a little bit hard the first few months, maybe even the first year, but like, yeah, you learn how to cook around it. You don't need it.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 7:47

And I would even argue a lot of that in the first few months is just, oh, learning what to eat instead. Like you're just a habit kind of thing. Really. Right. More than actually missing the taste.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 7:55

Like it breaks your brain a little bit.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 7:56

Yeah. Yeah. Um, and again, if you really, uh, like those things a lot and you want to maybe help the transition, there are a lot of great straight up substitutions. Mm-hmm. Like, uh, you know, beyond an impossible for meat. And a million different vegan cheeses. You really, it's hard to even miss cheese with all the cheese options out there.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 8:13

Yeah. And they're actually good nowadays.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 8:14

Yeah. Alright, next up. Vegans are all weak and frail. This one is, uh, I mean, just obviously not true. Again, going back to vegan athletes, vegan body boaters, and these aren't like. You know, amateurs, there are professional athletes, professional bodybuilders, uh, professional, strong men even that are completely vegan. Uh, there's actually a website, great vegan athletes.com, where you can go to it and just look at list of vegan athletes at the highest level and a bunch of different sports. And that was one of the things I got from, you know, the Game Changers movie. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of, uh, you know, argument about the, the scientific details or whatever of the Game Changers movie, but for me it was just the realization that people could be at the top of their sport and be vegan. For me, that was enough to just know, like, oh, that's possible. Why would I even need to bother with not being vegan?

Protein Deficient Vegan: 9:05

Do you know what I got from Game Changers?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 9:07

Oh wow. All right. What'd you get from Game Changers?

Protein Deficient Vegan: 9:11

Apparently vegan erections are way better. That's what I got. There was like a whole segment on it.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 9:17

Yeah. Uh, if you're looking for that kind of motivation, it's definitely worth a try.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 9:23

Vegetables the new Viagra. Yeah,

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 9:27

that's what they say.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 9:28

That's what they say. That's. Pretty much, uh, the Game Changers tagline, I think,

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 9:32

I think that's gonna be the vegan version of the gut milk campaign. Next up, plant protein isn't complete and isn't as good as animal protein. Again, we come back to a little bit of truth and the kind of myth here, because, uh, this is technically true, a lot of plant proteins aren't what they would consider complete and as a quality, uh, as far as the amino acid profile is a little less. Than animal proteins, but a lot of the time, uh, it doesn't actually end up mattering for practical purposes.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 10:02

You know why that is though, right?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 10:04

Why is that?

Protein Deficient Vegan: 10:05

Okay. So basically what I, what I read is like, like needs, like, so like basically if you wanted the best protein, you'd be cannibal. Yeah. Yeah. Like you'd eat human meat to get like a full complete protein because humans are eating the full, complete protein, so their bodies are made up of the full complete protein. And that's the same for like animals? Yeah. Like animals are eating all these vegetables or like. Grains, whatever. Yeah. That make up complete proteins in their body. And that's what you would be eating if you were eating animals.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 10:38

Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 10:39

So you just need to eat better. Yeah. And then you'll have complete proteins.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 10:42

Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 10:42

With non-animal products.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 10:44

Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 10:44

Or you can be a cannibal.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 10:46

We need to see some studies on cannibalism, protein efficiency. For sure.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 10:50

Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 10:52

So I mean, for one, all plant foods and really all foods that have protein actually have all 20 amino acids. So everything has all the amino acids. Complete protein really just means does it have, uh, a high enough percentage threshold of each of those amino acids to meet, uh, you know, basically a predetermined number. So, um. There are a lot of things. For an example, Satan is not considered a complete protein, but it's only because it's lacking in one amino acid, which is lysine. So it's got everything else it needs. It just is a little, uh, lacking on lysine. Lysine though comes in beans and tofu and lentils and all kinds of other stuff. So basically if you eat soy and you also eat Satan, uh, you're gonna get that lysine anyway. So it doesn't really matter that there's not the lysine in Satan.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 11:40

Right.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 11:40

So you don't have to get all the amino acids at once. You don't even have to necessarily combine those foods at the same time. Yeah. It's just, you know, throughout the days and weeks, your body needs to have all, especially the essential amino acids available to it. And so eating, again, a variety of foods will get you this total big picture, complete protein profile. Uh, even if the individual foods. Technically don't qualify as complete proteins.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 12:06

Yeah. You can think of it like an amino acid pool party in your body. They just all chill out until your body's ready to like take them all together.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 12:15

I like that. That's good. A pool party. Yeah, a little

Protein Deficient Vegan: 12:16

pool party.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 12:17

Yeah. Uh, but if you are interested and like. Single source, complete proteins on a vegan diet. Soy and quinoa are on their own complete proteins

Protein Deficient Vegan: 12:27

and buckwheat, although I've never used buckwheat. Don't know what to do with buckwheat. I

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 12:32

don't, uh, I think I've had buckwheat pancakes.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 12:33

I have too. Yeah. Yeah. I think they had 'em at, uh, home two. Sweets. Yeah. Back when I was a vegetarian.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 12:38

Oh, and also one more thing. Uh, even if you only ate Satan and Satan was lacking in lysine, you know, on a percentage basis, if you were in a caloric surplus and you just ate a whole lot of Satan, you would still get a lot of lysine. Yeah. You just wouldn't get maybe as much as is optimal to build muscle if you were eating sources that also contained, you know, those amino acids, that it's missing.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 13:00

Yeah. And another thing you can do is eaas. Right? Isn't that like the whole point?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 13:03

Yeah, an EA supplement has all the essential amino acids in there in a pretty high quantity. So you can, you know, if you're worried that maybe you're eating the same thing over and over, like if you do eat a bunch of Satan, you can take a supplement like that and you would know, okay, I'm getting some lysine from somewhere for sure. And it just helps your, you know, increase the diversity of your amino acid pool party

Protein Deficient Vegan: 13:24

and they come in fun flavors.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 13:26

Yeah, there are a lot of good flavors. I like all the sour ones. A lot of the EEAs come in, like the sour watermelon. Sour lemonade flavors. Yes. All right. Next myth. Being vegan is hard. What now would you say Being vegan is hard? Uh.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 13:40

In some ways yes. Social, socially, yes, but I am pretty introverted, so I actually find it to be kind of helpful.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 13:49

Yeah. The, the social stuff doesn't really bother me, but the convenience factor is I think, what I would qualify that as hard. But actually, uh, being vegan isn't really that bad. I mean, there's a lot of, uh, snacks and stuff, even if you want that, we can eat here and get from the grocery store, a lot of vegan stuff. But if you're just like, man, I don't have anything in the house. I don't really feel like cooking. Uh, trying to just go somewhere. Yeah. And get high quality vegan food is. Really difficult unless you're in the middle of a big city.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 14:17

Right. Like our natural gas went out last week and so we couldn't cook. And uh, yeah. Pretty limited options. Yeah. We just had to do what? Hummus and falafel. That's pretty much all we had. That was a vegan option near us. Yeah. So, yeah, for for sure that part does suck.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 14:34

Yeah. You know, it takes a little bit of extra planning, even in the best of circumstances to eat healthily. But honestly, even if you're not a vegan, it takes extra planning to eat healthily. Right. Because, and I don't feel like that there's really much of a difference. It's still the same kind of thing. You cook your own food, uh, you try not to eat out very much. In our case, we just don't have the option to eat out very much. So that kinda makes it a little easier.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 14:54

Yeah, I mean, if you were gonna be a junk food vegan, you could eat nothing but Oreos and it would be just as convenient as being a junk food omnivore. So.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 15:01

Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 15:02

Trying to do it healthy is always gonna take more time.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 15:04

Right. Plus, you know, there are a ton of vegan recipe sites out there. You know, vegans fitness.com is one of them.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 15:10

You should really go check that out.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 15:13

But there are, you know, out there, there are lots of easy, uh, delicious, even quick recipes that you can make, even with vegan ingredients. I mean, it's just, it's the same as cooking with non-vegan ingredients. Really?

Protein Deficient Vegan: 15:23

Oh, for sure. Like. Honestly, one of our go-tos is just that Alfredo with the tofu sauce and that takes like 15 minutes and it is super healthy, super high on protein, really easy to make and I think it's taste really great.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 15:37

Yeah, and it's definitely not any harder than making a non-vegan pasta. It's the same process.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 15:41

I think it's actually easier'cause you're blending tofu.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 15:44

No, that's true. Yeah. In

Protein Deficient Vegan: 15:45

a lot of ways some of this stuff can be easier 'cause you're like just blending shit where you'd normally be like making a roux or whatever.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 15:52

So next up is being vegan is expensive. Um, there, if you're eating whole foods, like, you know, we tried to do to be healthy, uh, it is obviously a little more expensive than normal, like commodity food.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 16:04

Oh yeah. I mean, it's definitely more expensive than eating 2000 calories a day in Doritos.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 16:09

Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I think even if you're not vegan and you're trying to eat healthy whole Foods, the prices are really similar. I, I haven't noticed anything that's really egregiously more expensive on the vegan side.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 16:22

Yeah. I mean, if you are really sticking to a lot of meat and dairy substitutes, it is going to get expensive. Like Oh yeah. The very expensive, that's, the

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 16:31

meat replacements are very expensive.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 16:33

The dairy ones can be too. Yeah. Like those specialty products, but I mean. Honestly, you gotta learn how to cook. Yeah. Like you need to learn how to cook and you need to not rely on those. And if you're not relying on those, it's not any, uh, in my opinion, any more expensive than an omnivore diet.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 16:49

Yeah. I mean, we've got a lot of big staples and like, uh, oats, TVP beans and rice, and those things are all notoriously very low priced.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 16:57

Wheat. Gluten flour is pretty g cheap. Wheat, gluten

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 16:59

flour. Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 16:59

You can make Satan yourself, Satan, yourself.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 17:04

Yeah, and the plant milks are kind of the same price range as like the premium dairy milks. I mean, it's definitely not gonna be as cheap as the, you know, store brand.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 17:12

And I think even on the non-dairy milks, you can make those yourself.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 17:16

Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 17:17

You know, without having a cow in your house, so that's exciting. Yeah. You can milk the almonds with your own hands. Get those little almond teats and milk 'em if nipples. Greg, can you milk me?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 17:31

All right. Okay. Yeah. The last kind of thing you might hear, and it does kind of fall more towards the myth side, is people say either like, I could never eat vegan food, or I've never eaten vegan food before. Well, uh, okay, so you definitely have, right? So, uh, yeah, some popular ones. Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, baked potatoes, Oreos, every vegetable you've ever eaten. I mean, unless they're cooked in butter or something. Right. Movie theater popcorn is usually vegan. I mean, like you are definitely eating vegan food all the time. All the time. And that's because vegan food is not special food. It's just food. It's just the food that doesn't include the animal products like meat and stuff. Yeah. So I mean, uh, to say you can never eat vegan food or you've never eaten vegan food, you just, you're, you're eating it all the time, even if you don't really think about it like that.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 18:20

Yeah, this one's always been extra funny to me.'cause you get this a lot. Like I could never eat vegan. Yeah. And it's like you probably ate vegan yesterday.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 18:31

Yeah. The only special food we have is really like soy stuff, like tofu. And I'm not even really sure why that is associated with vegan specifically because, uh, anybody could eat tofu or soy or anything. Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 18:45

And not even. Could they? They should. Yeah. Because like, honestly, the macros are amazing, right? And it's, everyone should be using that. So,

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 18:53

and tofu, I mean, there are so many things if I would've known like how good so, and tofu was for things, or TVP or TVP, you could just put it in so much stuff. Mm-hmm. And there's not really a food like that. Uh, that's not those things. So I'm not really sure how soy got pigeonholed into being a vegan and vegetarian thing. Yeah. Instead of just another protein option for everybody.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 19:16

Right. Like another protein tool.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 19:19

Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 19:19

Yeah. I think omnivores need to pick up on tofu and TVP 'cause they are missing out. Like it. Pretty handy in the kitchen

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 19:27

for sure. All right, so we hope that helps you kind of have some conversations about veganism or maybe even think through some hesitations you were having or you know, just generally any questions you might have. All right, so we've got a couple of recipes coming out, so we're gonna talk about those a little bit. The first one we made that's really good, and you can see it on the website, is the strawberry cheesecake.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 19:46

Yeah, it's a strawberry chocolate cheesecake.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 19:48

Yeah. Everything's better with chocolate, right?

Protein Deficient Vegan: 19:50

It'd be really good for Valentine's Day. Mm-hmm. Hint, hint, maybe you should make it for me.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 19:57

Yeah. So this was, uh, really super good and it has actual chunks of whole strawberry in there. It's not just like some weird strawberry flavoring or anything. So it's got the, you know, streaks, you can see it looks really pretty and red and obviously it tastes awesome.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 20:10

Yeah. And it's got a chocolate TVP crust and the filling is made out of silicon tofu.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 20:15

Yeah. Also the, did we mention chocolate, strawberry cheesecake is 32% protein,

Protein Deficient Vegan: 20:22

right? So

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 20:22

these, uh, cheesecakes are getting better every time. I don't really understand how you keep doing it, but, um, I'm really happy. Alright, next up, we made a nice fajita bowl. So you wanna talk about that a little bit?

Protein Deficient Vegan: 20:38

Yeah, so we used seasoned TVP as like the rice that you put it on, you know, for extra protein and then black beans, and then some like sauteed green peppers, mushrooms, onions, and I'm like a little sprinkling of vegan cheese and I thought it turned out really well. Uh,

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 20:57

yeah. No, I'm hungry. Thank you for that. I appreciate. Yeah,

Protein Deficient Vegan: 20:59

it was really easy to make too. Like super, super quick.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 21:03

Yeah, that was really good. You could probably eat meal prep, something like that. Uh oh

Protein Deficient Vegan: 21:07

yeah, for sure.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 21:08

You can put it another one. Obviously with mojito bowls, you can do whatever. You can eat it with chips, put it in a burrito, put it in a taco, eat it just straight outta the bowl. Yeah, you could put it in putting on your calories for the day.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 21:17

You could put it in a tortilla. It'd be pretty good in a tortilla.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 21:19

Yeah. And then the last one we had were some banana nut, TBP muffins.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 21:24

Dude, we just made those this morning and I thought they were pretty good.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 21:28

Yeah, I think they're probably the best. Uh, you know, we've got a couple of these TBP muffins so far. I think this is the best form of that so far. The banana is really good flavor in these.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 21:37

Yeah, it's a really good, strong flavor. Yeah. Can't even tell. There's TBP kind of tastes like oatmeal.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 21:42

Yeah,

Protein Deficient Vegan: 21:42

or like my friend said, it was like, kind of feels like, um, a muffin meets like one of those oatmeal, no bake cookies. And I think that's a, like a pretty good description.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 21:54

Yeah, and you know, they're not necessarily high protein. I think they're like 18% or something, but they have a decent amount of protein and it doesn't like compromise on the flavor or anything, like adding some protein powder wood. So, I mean, uh, best of both worlds in my opinion.

Protein Deficient Vegan: 22:08

Yeah, I agree.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: 22:09

Okay, so that's what we have on the recipe front, and I think that is it for this week. Next week we'll be back with another topic to carry you through via January. And as always, if you have any questions, feel free to, uh, reach out to us on the website. You can leave comments, reach out to us on social media, or you can just email podcast@deficientvegans.com and you can find all that information in the show notes. So, uh, I think that's it and I hope everybody has a good week. Do you wanna say? Bye Bye. Bye everybody.